1 00:00:08,270 --> 00:00:05,900 hello everyone this is Martin Willis 2 00:00:10,250 --> 00:00:08,280 welcome to the show and if you've 3 00:00:13,459 --> 00:00:10,260 listened to our past shows you remember 4 00:00:16,460 --> 00:00:13,469 the intro and that music is actually by 5 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:16,470 our guest tonight mark Stanley and I'm 6 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:18,210 going to play the whole song and it's 7 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:20,490 called blue shadows by Mark Stanley and 8 00:00:42,410 --> 00:00:23,650 our guest is coming up right after that 9 00:00:52,349 --> 00:00:46,000 you find 10 00:00:54,690 --> 00:00:52,359 the blue shadows when the Sun has gone 11 00:01:00,380 --> 00:00:54,700 she dances 12 00:01:00,390 --> 00:01:05,750 watch you by the fire 13 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:10,260 cool 14 00:01:10,270 --> 00:01:14,920 feel my design 15 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:18,330 resin with a love 16 00:01:38,730 --> 00:01:35,300 lover thousand times before some big and 17 00:01:45,050 --> 00:01:41,260 [Music] 18 00:01:57,820 --> 00:01:54,300 blue shadow son is gone she dances with 19 00:02:19,330 --> 00:02:04,730 [Music] 20 00:02:19,340 --> 00:02:23,339 and of 21 00:02:27,660 --> 00:02:26,020 she used to rest 22 00:02:30,700 --> 00:02:27,670 [Music] 23 00:02:32,920 --> 00:02:30,710 so much I would give 24 00:02:43,729 --> 00:02:32,930 [Music] 25 00:02:43,739 --> 00:02:46,560 Oh 26 00:03:05,280 --> 00:02:48,620 [Music] 27 00:03:16,460 --> 00:03:11,000 blue shadows the Sun 28 00:04:00,729 --> 00:03:25,760 [Music] 29 00:04:06,860 --> 00:04:04,039 well that's a great tune and that's blue 30 00:04:10,190 --> 00:04:06,870 shadows by our guest this evening and he 31 00:04:14,869 --> 00:04:10,200 is joined by michael tweed how are you 32 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:14,879 guys good thank you very angry so first 33 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:19,410 of all Michael you are a documentarian I 34 00:04:22,900 --> 00:04:21,570 guess that's what you'd call someone 35 00:04:26,210 --> 00:04:22,910 like you someone that makes 36 00:04:29,629 --> 00:04:26,220 documentaries and and you're you're 37 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:29,639 doing a actually a film coming up on 38 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:31,770 mark but let's let's talk quickly about 39 00:04:39,379 --> 00:04:34,970 you and then we'll talk to mark and 40 00:04:42,170 --> 00:04:39,389 about his whole story sounds good 41 00:04:44,420 --> 00:04:42,180 um mark and I kind of grew up together 42 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:44,430 so we've known each other quite a long 43 00:04:53,629 --> 00:04:50,250 time and I watched Mark's musical 44 00:04:54,710 --> 00:04:53,639 involvement for years and when he became 45 00:04:56,779 --> 00:04:54,720 he'll I thought what a perfect 46 00:04:58,490 --> 00:04:56,789 opportunity for me to segue from 47 00:05:01,159 --> 00:04:58,500 shooting stills for the Associated Press 48 00:05:05,089 --> 00:05:01,169 in the New York Times to becoming a 49 00:05:06,980 --> 00:05:05,099 filmmaker and we sat down and worked on 50 00:05:09,350 --> 00:05:06,990 putting together script and interviews 51 00:05:12,439 --> 00:05:09,360 and background and the whole the whole 52 00:05:14,420 --> 00:05:12,449 nine yards and that's basically where 53 00:05:16,010 --> 00:05:14,430 we're at right now we're ready to go as 54 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:16,020 soon as we can make some money or get 55 00:05:22,070 --> 00:05:19,530 some money to start yeah always 56 00:05:22,820 --> 00:05:22,080 always been it's finished yes always the 57 00:05:26,870 --> 00:05:22,830 tough part 58 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:26,880 funding now have you done anything like 59 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:30,690 an IndieGoGo or anything like that um 60 00:05:34,580 --> 00:05:33,210 actually we have a foundation and so 61 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:34,590 we've been trying to do it on our own 62 00:05:40,850 --> 00:05:36,810 groups meeting with another filmmaker 63 00:05:44,230 --> 00:05:40,860 from Marin County middle of the week 64 00:05:47,540 --> 00:05:44,240 next week and she's really behind the 65 00:05:49,969 --> 00:05:47,550 story and she has creative ways of 66 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:49,979 funding so I think we're pretty well at 67 00:05:53,749 --> 00:05:51,210 the crossroads excellent 68 00:05:55,540 --> 00:05:53,759 that's excellent and I know we talked a 69 00:05:58,730 --> 00:05:55,550 little bit ahead of time and I know how 70 00:06:00,499 --> 00:05:58,740 how involved you know once you have all 71 00:06:01,909 --> 00:06:00,509 the footage shot then you go into the 72 00:06:04,610 --> 00:06:01,919 editing room and that's where all the 73 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:04,620 magic happens and it's tedious and and 74 00:06:09,020 --> 00:06:07,289 very time-consuming 75 00:06:12,260 --> 00:06:09,030 would would you what would you expect 76 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:12,270 how long that it would take something 77 00:06:18,469 --> 00:06:14,970 like this to for you to create it and 78 00:06:21,559 --> 00:06:18,479 get it ready for well we have a shooting 79 00:06:25,189 --> 00:06:21,569 schedule of approximately 45 days that 80 00:06:26,869 --> 00:06:25,199 can obviously change in a heartbeat the 81 00:06:31,670 --> 00:06:26,879 post is going to take quite a lot longer 82 00:06:34,010 --> 00:06:31,680 probably oh gosh four to six months 83 00:06:36,070 --> 00:06:34,020 possibly depending on how we do the 84 00:06:39,379 --> 00:06:36,080 sound you know if we want to do you know 85 00:06:41,990 --> 00:06:39,389 really I guess the surround type sound 86 00:06:43,610 --> 00:06:42,000 five one which would be nice because 87 00:06:46,010 --> 00:06:43,620 with all the music that we're dealing 88 00:06:49,430 --> 00:06:46,020 with in them we want to culminate it 89 00:06:51,740 --> 00:06:49,440 with a concert in the Bay Area here with 90 00:06:54,050 --> 00:06:51,750 Mark and all his friends and we want to 91 00:06:57,080 --> 00:06:54,060 film that as well and add that as a 92 00:06:59,809 --> 00:06:57,090 bonus I always very nice that's great so 93 00:07:02,240 --> 00:06:59,819 mark so let's talk about your story 94 00:07:04,879 --> 00:07:02,250 you started out really really young 95 00:07:07,399 --> 00:07:04,889 music was your passion and this is this 96 00:07:10,490 --> 00:07:07,409 is basically another story I've done one 97 00:07:13,189 --> 00:07:10,500 a similar show this is basically about 98 00:07:16,820 --> 00:07:13,199 survival and what you did to survive and 99 00:07:20,450 --> 00:07:16,830 and move on from from tragedy but your 100 00:07:22,909 --> 00:07:20,460 music is beautiful and you actually 101 00:07:24,829 --> 00:07:22,919 listen to another show that I have and 102 00:07:27,079 --> 00:07:24,839 you sent me that's how we we actually 103 00:07:30,499 --> 00:07:27,089 met you send me a clip you wrote about 104 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:30,509 Roswell which is pretty it right so I 105 00:07:36,230 --> 00:07:33,810 want to know also besides your musical 106 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:36,240 background how you get started what it 107 00:07:41,869 --> 00:07:38,610 was like growing up around music and 108 00:07:43,790 --> 00:07:41,879 music was everything but also at some 109 00:07:48,769 --> 00:07:43,800 point I want to ask you why you wrote 110 00:07:50,839 --> 00:07:48,779 the song about Roswell okay well you 111 00:07:52,579 --> 00:07:50,849 know the Bay Area back in 250 especially 112 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:52,589 like with clubs like the hungry eye and 113 00:07:57,529 --> 00:07:54,210 the Purple Onion is becoming kind of a 114 00:07:59,689 --> 00:07:57,539 real great place for a musician to 115 00:08:01,999 --> 00:07:59,699 Kingston Trio and all these acts were 116 00:08:04,100 --> 00:08:02,009 coming into the into the Bay Area my 117 00:08:06,469 --> 00:08:04,110 parents went to Kingston Trio concert at 118 00:08:08,869 --> 00:08:06,479 the hungry eye and brought this record 119 00:08:10,219 --> 00:08:08,879 home of theirs and I went crazy over I 120 00:08:11,659 --> 00:08:10,229 mean literally that's all I did was 121 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:11,669 listen to this record I learned every 122 00:08:17,300 --> 00:08:15,810 word I was three years old and so they 123 00:08:19,339 --> 00:08:17,310 had to buy the next album of course in 124 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:19,349 the next one and there was a guitar 125 00:08:22,550 --> 00:08:20,610 laying around the house 126 00:08:25,460 --> 00:08:22,560 and I picked it up and just taught 127 00:08:27,230 --> 00:08:25,470 myself how to play and that's how I 128 00:08:30,050 --> 00:08:27,240 started to write songs actually as I 129 00:08:31,850 --> 00:08:30,060 couldn't read music so I couldn't play 130 00:08:33,529 --> 00:08:31,860 other people's songs so I started to 131 00:08:36,019 --> 00:08:33,539 write my own songs to have a song to 132 00:08:37,790 --> 00:08:36,029 play so that's how my songwriting 133 00:08:40,969 --> 00:08:37,800 started was so I could have something to 134 00:08:42,980 --> 00:08:40,979 play when I set her on the house and 135 00:08:44,900 --> 00:08:42,990 then you know I the neighbor down the 136 00:08:46,519 --> 00:08:44,910 street listen to music and he started to 137 00:08:47,990 --> 00:08:46,529 blow duo together and then that grew 138 00:08:50,660 --> 00:08:48,000 into a foursome and all through high 139 00:08:53,420 --> 00:08:50,670 school and a band we played all the 140 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:53,430 colleges and high schools and clubs and 141 00:08:58,340 --> 00:08:56,490 so it was my passion since I can 142 00:09:01,340 --> 00:08:58,350 remember now whether it was there a time 143 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:01,350 where you just said this is what I'm 144 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:05,610 going to do like this is this is it yeah 145 00:09:11,870 --> 00:09:10,410 I was three that's the truth I mean I 146 00:09:13,460 --> 00:09:11,880 never thought even when I was in high 147 00:09:15,560 --> 00:09:13,470 school I found out later that the 148 00:09:18,889 --> 00:09:15,570 teachers would tell their assistants 149 00:09:20,569 --> 00:09:18,899 give mark a B on this test because he's 150 00:09:22,819 --> 00:09:20,579 you know he's not going to go anywhere 151 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:22,829 other than to play music in fact my 152 00:09:27,050 --> 00:09:24,930 principal my high school called me into 153 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:27,060 his office my senior year and said mark 154 00:09:31,389 --> 00:09:29,730 if you sing two songs if your graduation 155 00:09:35,319 --> 00:09:31,399 will make sure you get your diploma 156 00:09:38,150 --> 00:09:35,329 I said I'll even sing three if you want 157 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:38,160 yeah I knew right oh I mean I just knew 158 00:09:42,380 --> 00:09:40,050 since I was a kid I was not going to do 159 00:09:45,139 --> 00:09:42,390 anything else so then my parents knew 160 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:45,149 what they didn't even fight it so yeah I 161 00:09:51,370 --> 00:09:47,490 knew right away it was um you know I 162 00:09:54,170 --> 00:09:51,380 know how hard it is any any of the arts 163 00:09:57,170 --> 00:09:54,180 you can have a real strong passion but 164 00:09:59,389 --> 00:09:57,180 it's really hard to get by unless you 165 00:10:02,630 --> 00:09:59,399 get really lucky so did you have to do 166 00:10:05,329 --> 00:10:02,640 other things for like in-between or as 167 00:10:10,850 --> 00:10:05,339 as you're going along or was it just 168 00:10:13,610 --> 00:10:10,860 that he never stopped yeah no I 169 00:10:16,340 --> 00:10:13,620 I made my I never had another job I made 170 00:10:18,949 --> 00:10:16,350 all my living from from playing singing 171 00:10:21,079 --> 00:10:18,959 oh wow that's so I was worried you know 172 00:10:21,889 --> 00:10:21,089 I was playing three four five usually 173 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:21,899 five nights a week 174 00:10:28,100 --> 00:10:25,410 Wow so you you were actually that's what 175 00:10:31,130 --> 00:10:28,110 I consider a really good area for that 176 00:10:34,340 --> 00:10:31,140 there's a lot of really good lot of 177 00:10:38,390 --> 00:10:34,350 really good music a lot of good places 178 00:10:40,550 --> 00:10:38,400 venues to play yes especially then you 179 00:10:42,980 --> 00:10:40,560 know back in the seventh I feel sorry 180 00:10:45,380 --> 00:10:42,990 for kids now that that play because it 181 00:10:47,180 --> 00:10:45,390 would be go to a advance or something at 182 00:10:50,030 --> 00:10:47,190 a high school it's all you know they're 183 00:10:53,270 --> 00:10:50,040 playing CDs or records or there's a DJ 184 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:53,280 and we were lucky that all the high 185 00:10:57,170 --> 00:10:54,930 schools and junior high schools and 186 00:10:59,090 --> 00:10:57,180 colleges hired us as you know to play 187 00:11:01,010 --> 00:10:59,100 the dances it was a good way to get 188 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:01,020 experience and you know you could be 189 00:11:05,750 --> 00:11:02,610 lousy you could be terrible for a while 190 00:11:07,490 --> 00:11:05,760 and learn your chops so to speak I don't 191 00:11:12,710 --> 00:11:07,500 know where kids do that nowadays you 192 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:12,720 know so now you actually did you 193 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:21,770 my first album came out night well no I 194 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:25,410 did it I did a single back in 1980 so it 195 00:11:29,660 --> 00:11:27,450 was I got 12 24 25 196 00:11:31,850 --> 00:11:29,670 that was my first release I had my first 197 00:11:33,710 --> 00:11:31,860 album came out in 84 I did it now about 198 00:11:36,950 --> 00:11:33,720 every three years I think oh I think 199 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:36,960 I've got what six or seven albums out so 200 00:11:42,980 --> 00:11:39,210 I started to write in my early early 20s 201 00:11:45,980 --> 00:11:42,990 now what do you think about music today 202 00:11:49,270 --> 00:11:45,990 all the free music available it does 203 00:11:51,620 --> 00:11:49,280 that make it really hard for a musician 204 00:11:53,750 --> 00:11:51,630 very very hard fact I've talked about 205 00:11:56,620 --> 00:11:53,760 two friends who say the same thing it's 206 00:11:59,180 --> 00:11:56,630 it's hard to make money anymore because 207 00:12:01,640 --> 00:11:59,190 you know people put stuff on YouTube 208 00:12:03,950 --> 00:12:01,650 they goes into for free or somebody buys 209 00:12:05,990 --> 00:12:03,960 a CD and they burn four copies of it for 210 00:12:07,700 --> 00:12:06,000 their friends you know we were kids you 211 00:12:10,220 --> 00:12:07,710 couldn't burn a record you had to go out 212 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:10,230 and buy it if you wanted to own it so 213 00:12:15,410 --> 00:12:12,810 yeah it's really hard to make money 214 00:12:18,410 --> 00:12:15,420 anymore unless you're a really huge act 215 00:12:21,890 --> 00:12:18,420 is there another side of that coin in 216 00:12:25,580 --> 00:12:21,900 other words is there also better 217 00:12:28,310 --> 00:12:25,590 exposure as well at the same time right 218 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:28,320 yeah and you yeah yeah there is there's 219 00:12:33,560 --> 00:12:31,650 more exposure just so much lost revenue 220 00:12:35,420 --> 00:12:33,570 that's why a lot of people have to go 221 00:12:37,570 --> 00:12:35,430 out on the road more they're making the 222 00:12:39,980 --> 00:12:37,580 money from the concerts not from their 223 00:12:42,650 --> 00:12:39,990 the selling of their music 224 00:12:44,990 --> 00:12:42,660 like I said unless you're a huge huge 225 00:12:46,910 --> 00:12:45,000 act it's almost like a lottery if you 226 00:12:48,950 --> 00:12:46,920 your music gets out there and 227 00:12:51,350 --> 00:12:48,960 gets picked up then you become the big 228 00:12:54,410 --> 00:12:51,360 star it's almost the opposite way of 229 00:12:58,550 --> 00:12:54,420 working now yeah it's a good point and 230 00:13:00,890 --> 00:12:58,560 what do as far as what are the big 231 00:13:02,390 --> 00:13:00,900 record labels doing this is I'm only 232 00:13:05,150 --> 00:13:02,400 asking these questions because I don't 233 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:05,160 know the answers maybe a lot of other 234 00:13:13,010 --> 00:13:07,290 people do but what are the big labels 235 00:13:15,380 --> 00:13:13,020 doing to survive the changes play you 236 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:15,390 got me I don't know it's a good very 237 00:13:20,630 --> 00:13:18,930 good question yeah good question I don't 238 00:13:22,430 --> 00:13:20,640 know Martin what what what they would be 239 00:13:26,510 --> 00:13:22,440 doing far as that goes 240 00:13:28,010 --> 00:13:26,520 I guess iTunes ah yep you know selling 241 00:13:30,460 --> 00:13:28,020 your music on iTunes cuz people have to 242 00:13:32,900 --> 00:13:30,470 buy it there yeah that's true 243 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:32,910 you know I that's where they're making I 244 00:13:37,510 --> 00:13:35,490 know my friend Buffy who was John 245 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:37,520 Stewart's wife you know she could sue 246 00:13:42,530 --> 00:13:40,410 you know checks because she know that 247 00:13:44,570 --> 00:13:42,540 he's died she gets you know all the 248 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:44,580 revenue from his stuff and that's where 249 00:13:49,250 --> 00:13:46,410 she's getting her most of her bulk of 250 00:13:51,710 --> 00:13:49,260 her income is from from iTunes I know 251 00:13:55,820 --> 00:13:51,720 when I lived in Marin County that there 252 00:13:57,890 --> 00:13:55,830 was a lot of musicians in the area so 253 00:13:59,900 --> 00:13:57,900 let's just quickly go over the ones 254 00:14:02,030 --> 00:13:59,910 you're aware of that or like in Northern 255 00:14:05,180 --> 00:14:02,040 California I remember you know a lot of 256 00:14:07,970 --> 00:14:05,190 Jefferson Airplane the Grateful Dead and 257 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:07,980 I know there's tons of them there's a 258 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:11,730 some metal groups heavy metal I'm trying 259 00:14:17,930 --> 00:14:14,370 to remember a friend of mine used to be 260 00:14:19,460 --> 00:14:17,940 one of their people on the road so they 261 00:14:21,230 --> 00:14:19,470 were there's a lot of people up in the 262 00:14:22,490 --> 00:14:21,240 Northern California that are in the 263 00:14:24,020 --> 00:14:22,500 music interesting yeah they're always 264 00:14:26,780 --> 00:14:24,030 happen Santana 265 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:26,790 right he said all Betty money came out 266 00:14:33,110 --> 00:14:31,770 of Burley Oh journey yeah I was in fact 267 00:14:35,570 --> 00:14:33,120 one of the guys from journey lived in 268 00:14:37,220 --> 00:14:35,580 Lafayette and I'd secret Eddie Money 269 00:14:38,690 --> 00:14:37,230 lived here for a while to actually I 270 00:14:40,850 --> 00:14:38,700 think he's still girls yeah I think he 271 00:14:42,710 --> 00:14:40,860 does yeah there's the Barry has always 272 00:14:44,300 --> 00:14:42,720 been a kind of a music I think people 273 00:14:47,450 --> 00:14:44,310 love to live here you know 274 00:14:50,690 --> 00:14:47,460 that's true it is that's uh sort of 275 00:14:54,410 --> 00:14:50,700 right right yeah it's a beautiful area 276 00:14:56,930 --> 00:14:54,420 and really nice for weather you know 277 00:14:59,720 --> 00:14:56,940 year-round and other still a lot of 278 00:15:00,530 --> 00:14:59,730 concerts going on where someone like 279 00:15:03,140 --> 00:15:00,540 young 280 00:15:07,580 --> 00:15:03,150 and coming up can actually participate 281 00:15:10,820 --> 00:15:07,590 in why not that I don't get out that 282 00:15:12,650 --> 00:15:10,830 much ID okay what say isn't Michael I 283 00:15:15,050 --> 00:15:12,660 said there do all the clubs that were 284 00:15:17,390 --> 00:15:15,060 around back in the 70s and 80s alcohol 285 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:17,400 seem to disappear the Keystone and Long 286 00:15:22,970 --> 00:15:20,250 Branch and all the clubs were you could 287 00:15:23,780 --> 00:15:22,980 go see two or three bands local bands 288 00:15:26,750 --> 00:15:23,790 and get a beer 289 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:26,760 and they just seemed of all vanish and I 290 00:15:30,710 --> 00:15:28,410 don't think they like I used to open up 291 00:15:34,790 --> 00:15:30,720 for names I opened up for Jerry Garcia 292 00:15:36,290 --> 00:15:34,800 Roger Lowen who else do it and I'm not 293 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:36,300 even sure that they do that anymore they 294 00:15:38,750 --> 00:15:37,530 kind of have the main act that's why I 295 00:15:41,930 --> 00:15:38,760 was saying it's all I think it's so much 296 00:15:44,150 --> 00:15:41,940 harder for up-and-coming musicians to to 297 00:15:46,910 --> 00:15:44,160 find venues and in places to kind of 298 00:15:48,740 --> 00:15:46,920 learn how to how to get better you know 299 00:15:50,510 --> 00:15:48,750 dig that experience I just don't know 300 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:50,520 what no it's out there anymore but now 301 00:15:53,540 --> 00:15:51,930 that I'm older I don't I don't you know 302 00:15:55,760 --> 00:15:53,550 I don't tend to go out to those places 303 00:15:59,660 --> 00:15:55,770 anyway to to look for them 304 00:16:02,630 --> 00:15:59,670 so where what would you say the pinnacle 305 00:16:05,570 --> 00:16:02,640 of your music musical career was 306 00:16:08,450 --> 00:16:05,580 basically was it like toured when the 307 00:16:11,030 --> 00:16:08,460 things changed for you did you feel like 308 00:16:15,140 --> 00:16:11,040 you had a lot a lot going on at that 309 00:16:18,140 --> 00:16:15,150 point yes I was kind of it it was funny 310 00:16:21,290 --> 00:16:18,150 because I was just started to you know I 311 00:16:23,330 --> 00:16:21,300 just had done a album in Austin Texas 312 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:23,340 with Mark Coleman who was Carole King's 313 00:16:27,530 --> 00:16:25,290 producer and it was a Dan Fogelberg 314 00:16:29,420 --> 00:16:27,540 guitarist I got one of my favorite 315 00:16:32,780 --> 00:16:29,430 female singers Sara Hickman to come and 316 00:16:34,550 --> 00:16:32,790 do a couple duets with me came back and 317 00:16:37,180 --> 00:16:34,560 was telling I was starting to do more 318 00:16:39,650 --> 00:16:37,190 shows where I was just doing my 319 00:16:42,020 --> 00:16:39,660 originals you know not doing so I would 320 00:16:44,390 --> 00:16:42,030 do a lot of covers earlier and so things 321 00:16:47,660 --> 00:16:44,400 and I had just gone to LA to start the 322 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:47,670 next album which I was really excited 323 00:16:50,750 --> 00:16:49,290 about with mark Bonilla who's my 324 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:50,760 producer down there he's playing with 325 00:16:55,580 --> 00:16:53,850 who now he was with keith emerson played 326 00:16:58,040 --> 00:16:55,590 with chicago who else is the ethan 327 00:17:01,370 --> 00:16:58,050 Montrose Ronnie Montrose so we were 328 00:17:04,250 --> 00:17:01,380 working on this new album I just gone to 329 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:04,260 LA we did two or three songs I came back 330 00:17:19,189 --> 00:17:15,980 I know it's kind of early in the show 331 00:17:20,569 --> 00:17:19,199 already to talk about that but so we 332 00:17:23,540 --> 00:17:20,579 more or less have already established 333 00:17:25,610 --> 00:17:23,550 that things were going great basically 334 00:17:27,980 --> 00:17:25,620 this is what you wanted to do and 335 00:17:31,850 --> 00:17:27,990 nothing else it was your total passion 336 00:17:33,410 --> 00:17:31,860 you can tell I personally think you're 337 00:17:37,430 --> 00:17:33,420 very talented and I'm sure a lot of 338 00:17:42,970 --> 00:17:37,440 people out there do so so let's talk 339 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:42,980 about how that whole thing happened well 340 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:45,090 with my daughter was in the fourth grade 341 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:49,770 in I volunteered to go on this field 342 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:51,570 trip for a couple days up to the Gold 343 00:17:56,960 --> 00:17:55,290 Country in Northern California and he 344 00:17:59,120 --> 00:17:56,970 left on a Wednesday and I didn't feel 345 00:18:00,350 --> 00:17:59,130 great had sort of a sore throat but I 346 00:18:02,180 --> 00:18:00,360 didn't want to back out because it was 347 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:02,190 the last-minute night I was one of the 348 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:03,450 chaperones and I didn't think they'd be 349 00:18:07,670 --> 00:18:05,850 able to get anybody and so I went it was 350 00:18:09,350 --> 00:18:07,680 really hot up there it was like 90 351 00:18:11,900 --> 00:18:09,360 degrees we had to do all these hikes and 352 00:18:13,700 --> 00:18:11,910 lived in these little barracks and stuff 353 00:18:15,770 --> 00:18:13,710 and I just was feeling worse and worse 354 00:18:19,940 --> 00:18:15,780 as the days when we came back on a 355 00:18:21,470 --> 00:18:19,950 Friday night and I woke up Saturday with 356 00:18:26,360 --> 00:18:21,480 just the worst sort that I've ever had 357 00:18:27,500 --> 00:18:26,370 my life and a fever of 105 and and I was 358 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:27,510 supposed to do a show for this 359 00:18:31,850 --> 00:18:29,850 corporation that day and I thought oh 360 00:18:33,980 --> 00:18:31,860 god I'll just go get through that that 361 00:18:37,580 --> 00:18:33,990 concert don't play it not this come home 362 00:18:39,650 --> 00:18:37,590 and collapse into bed so by about three 363 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:39,660 o'clock I thought I can't I can't make 364 00:18:45,710 --> 00:18:43,050 the show so I called them to tell them I 365 00:18:48,130 --> 00:18:45,720 couldn't do it and I was going to head 366 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:48,140 to the couch to lay down and I I 367 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:50,730 collapse I mean I split my head open on 368 00:18:56,930 --> 00:18:55,170 it a table and that saved my life action 369 00:18:58,520 --> 00:18:56,940 because if I had gone to the couch and 370 00:19:02,030 --> 00:18:58,530 lay down I would have fallen asleep and 371 00:19:07,190 --> 00:19:02,040 never woken up so the ambulance showed 372 00:19:11,120 --> 00:19:07,200 up and I got to the hospital and the 373 00:19:13,250 --> 00:19:11,130 doctor said this guy's on life support 374 00:19:16,460 --> 00:19:13,260 right now so he figured out something 375 00:19:22,790 --> 00:19:16,470 was going on that was Saturday so I woke 376 00:19:27,799 --> 00:19:22,800 up Thursday and my fingers were all 377 00:19:29,299 --> 00:19:27,809 black like I had frostbite and so he 378 00:19:31,159 --> 00:19:29,309 so well that's going to that's going to 379 00:19:32,539 --> 00:19:31,169 go away but another doctor kept telling 380 00:19:35,839 --> 00:19:32,549 me no it's not going to go away 381 00:19:36,979 --> 00:19:35,849 so finally they realized I wasn't going 382 00:19:39,950 --> 00:19:36,989 to happen and they came and said you 383 00:19:44,289 --> 00:19:39,960 know we got to amputate your fingers and 384 00:19:49,549 --> 00:19:47,659 so they sent me home for a couple of 385 00:19:54,709 --> 00:19:49,559 months because I couldn't get insurance 386 00:19:55,999 --> 00:19:54,719 to pay for it so finding the surgeon 387 00:19:57,560 --> 00:19:56,009 said he was going to do it for free if 388 00:20:00,049 --> 00:19:57,570 they wouldn't pay for it but a friend of 389 00:20:03,259 --> 00:20:00,059 mine is an attorney tells us I've got in 390 00:20:05,209 --> 00:20:03,269 true company did to pay for it so I was 391 00:20:05,989 --> 00:20:05,219 pretty depressed because I didn't know 392 00:20:07,609 --> 00:20:05,999 what I was going to do 393 00:20:09,289 --> 00:20:07,619 like I told you before I never had a job 394 00:20:12,430 --> 00:20:09,299 doing anything else right 395 00:20:20,419 --> 00:20:12,440 so first of all how does someone 396 00:20:21,709 --> 00:20:20,429 actually contract this disease they did 397 00:20:24,079 --> 00:20:21,719 they don't know they said I could have 398 00:20:25,729 --> 00:20:24,089 taken a sip off of somebody's glass that 399 00:20:28,659 --> 00:20:25,739 they hadn't had the battery was on the 400 00:20:31,579 --> 00:20:28,669 glass they never figured out how I 401 00:20:34,129 --> 00:20:31,589 contracted it so it's one of those you 402 00:20:35,989 --> 00:20:34,139 know it would had been going awry I'd 403 00:20:37,700 --> 00:20:35,999 seen a couple things in the paper about 404 00:20:41,180 --> 00:20:37,710 people who'd had it who had died in the 405 00:20:44,479 --> 00:20:41,190 Bay Area really and the funny thing is I 406 00:20:46,039 --> 00:20:44,489 thought I'm going to get that first in 407 00:20:48,709 --> 00:20:46,049 that weird that I would think that range 408 00:20:50,089 --> 00:20:48,719 well it was like I knew it I'm never 409 00:20:51,799 --> 00:20:50,099 thinking how many got me to get the X 410 00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:51,809 like there was about three or four cases 411 00:20:59,329 --> 00:20:56,369 and they all died so I they gave me a 412 00:21:01,579 --> 00:20:59,339 10% chance of surviving luckily somehow 413 00:21:03,859 --> 00:21:01,589 I did because I'm 2 million or something 414 00:21:08,209 --> 00:21:03,869 I would I mean they gave you that 10% 415 00:21:10,339 --> 00:21:08,219 chance was that early on yeah I didn't 416 00:21:11,930 --> 00:21:10,349 know that I was in a coma at that point 417 00:21:14,779 --> 00:21:11,940 so I hadn't heard that they were telling 418 00:21:16,219 --> 00:21:14,789 my my mom and my dad and my brother that 419 00:21:18,469 --> 00:21:16,229 you know you don't think he's going to 420 00:21:22,009 --> 00:21:18,479 survive this fact they called my dad he 421 00:21:23,839 --> 00:21:22,019 gonna come up from done your Paso Robles 422 00:21:25,609 --> 00:21:23,849 and come up because they didn't think I 423 00:21:29,719 --> 00:21:25,619 was going to survive by the third day I 424 00:21:33,079 --> 00:21:29,729 was in there Wow one of the interesting 425 00:21:34,849 --> 00:21:33,089 things about that disease is URI Martin 426 00:21:37,249 --> 00:21:34,859 could be a carrier and never get the 427 00:21:39,710 --> 00:21:37,259 disease that we could sneeze and it 428 00:21:41,420 --> 00:21:39,720 could land on somebody well such as Mark 429 00:21:44,630 --> 00:21:41,430 and they come down 430 00:21:47,180 --> 00:21:44,640 with a full-fledged case of it there's 431 00:21:50,570 --> 00:21:47,190 also not interesting ly enough right now 432 00:21:52,370 --> 00:21:50,580 Pfizer I believe makes a vaccine that 433 00:21:54,170 --> 00:21:52,380 you can take at the age of eighteen 434 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:54,180 which is about the right age because 435 00:21:58,400 --> 00:21:55,890 that's when you start become social and 436 00:22:01,430 --> 00:21:58,410 sharing glasses and beers and all that 437 00:22:03,110 --> 00:22:01,440 good stuff so yeah you know you and I 438 00:22:04,220 --> 00:22:03,120 could be the carrier that could give it 439 00:22:07,450 --> 00:22:04,230 to someone that ever you know how 440 00:22:10,850 --> 00:22:07,460 contagious are you as when you have it 441 00:22:13,610 --> 00:22:10,860 we do people have to like did they have 442 00:22:15,830 --> 00:22:13,620 to be real careful around you fact all 443 00:22:17,510 --> 00:22:15,840 the nurses had to wear masks they had me 444 00:22:20,330 --> 00:22:17,520 in a room of the sliding glass door and 445 00:22:21,830 --> 00:22:20,340 I was away from ready and all the kids 446 00:22:23,510 --> 00:22:21,840 that were on that there must have been 447 00:22:24,890 --> 00:22:23,520 200 kids on that because they were about 448 00:22:27,710 --> 00:22:24,900 three or four different schools all had 449 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:27,720 to come and get a shot they were all 450 00:22:32,060 --> 00:22:30,210 lined up down here at the school getting 451 00:22:33,950 --> 00:22:32,070 a vaccine for it so you you're pretty 452 00:22:35,570 --> 00:22:33,960 contagious I guess Michael knows more 453 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:35,580 about than I do yeah they must the kids 454 00:22:41,630 --> 00:22:39,330 kids muster really liked you then why 455 00:22:44,150 --> 00:22:41,640 wouldn't I when I started teaching at 456 00:22:46,100 --> 00:22:44,160 that school they might my the principal 457 00:22:48,110 --> 00:22:46,110 was Mike had been my sixth grade teacher 458 00:22:49,430 --> 00:22:48,120 he got me a job there one of the kids 459 00:22:51,970 --> 00:22:49,440 said do you know all the problems you 460 00:22:55,340 --> 00:22:51,980 call us when you got something less I 461 00:22:56,810 --> 00:22:55,350 bet no all right so Michael I guess I'll 462 00:23:00,020 --> 00:22:56,820 ask you this since you're a little bit 463 00:23:02,660 --> 00:23:00,030 more up on this up now is this up any 464 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:02,670 type of worldwide or nationwide I don't 465 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:05,250 want to say epidemic but it's not an 466 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:08,010 epidemic except in areas such as Africa 467 00:23:14,420 --> 00:23:11,730 which has the most cases of a bacterial 468 00:23:16,670 --> 00:23:14,430 meningitis India is pretty bad too 469 00:23:20,410 --> 00:23:16,680 usually I guess the worst cases or the 470 00:23:23,380 --> 00:23:20,420 worst areas hit are areas that have the 471 00:23:26,330 --> 00:23:23,390 least amount of money in funding and 472 00:23:27,410 --> 00:23:26,340 modern medicine I guess would be part of 473 00:23:32,930 --> 00:23:27,420 it 474 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:32,940 in California in recent I think we have 475 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:37,170 approximately well in the United States 476 00:23:41,990 --> 00:23:38,850 there is approximately a thousand to 477 00:23:45,770 --> 00:23:42,000 2,000 cases per year so that's how much 478 00:23:47,570 --> 00:23:45,780 we have it in control and hopefully can 479 00:23:52,730 --> 00:23:47,580 go down as I mentioned there's a vaccine 480 00:23:53,150 --> 00:23:52,740 and are you there oh yeah yeah I'm 481 00:23:54,670 --> 00:23:53,160 listening 482 00:23:57,340 --> 00:23:54,680 yeah okay 483 00:24:02,230 --> 00:23:57,350 the screen just went weird how that's 484 00:24:04,660 --> 00:24:02,240 the screen saver just one okay anyway 485 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:04,670 yeah that in the United States we pretty 486 00:24:10,690 --> 00:24:07,730 well have a handle on it as far as I 487 00:24:14,370 --> 00:24:10,700 mean one cases is when one too many but 488 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:14,380 it's not nearly as bad as worldwide so 489 00:24:21,310 --> 00:24:18,650 did they did they ask you like right 490 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:21,320 away mark have you traveled out of the 491 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:22,850 country and where the places you've been 492 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:26,450 or anything like that no no they didn't 493 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:30,890 ask me that at all actually um he when I 494 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:34,010 first got the there had sweat pants on 495 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:35,690 it pulled him down and he said where'd 496 00:24:38,620 --> 00:24:37,010 you get all these little red dots all 497 00:24:40,419 --> 00:24:38,630 over you and I didn't know that I had 498 00:24:43,060 --> 00:24:40,429 and what it was was all my blood vessels 499 00:24:47,260 --> 00:24:43,070 were breaking so it looks like you've 500 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:47,270 got measles kind of but like I said he 501 00:24:51,430 --> 00:24:49,010 had me on life support so fast that I 502 00:24:55,990 --> 00:24:51,440 was pretty much out of it pretty quickly 503 00:24:58,390 --> 00:24:56,000 after I got to the hospital um Ben and I 504 00:25:00,520 --> 00:24:58,400 came to he never asked well he knew or 505 00:25:02,890 --> 00:25:00,530 by then he knew where I would have gone 506 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:02,900 to it was it was quite a thing on the 507 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:04,730 news here I was on all the newspapers 508 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:09,050 and all the different televisions were 509 00:25:16,360 --> 00:25:13,490 on it they're kind of camped outside my 510 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:16,370 house for a couple of months Wow 511 00:25:23,980 --> 00:25:21,530 so when something like this happens what 512 00:25:26,980 --> 00:25:23,990 I I don't really understand exactly what 513 00:25:30,070 --> 00:25:26,990 happens without it being too graphic can 514 00:25:35,290 --> 00:25:30,080 you explain exactly what this disease or 515 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:35,300 I guess infection it actually is well 516 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:36,890 you know when that all those blood 517 00:25:40,210 --> 00:25:38,690 vessels start to break then that's why 518 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:40,220 my fingers and toes got amputated 519 00:25:45,490 --> 00:25:42,530 because the blood flow stops so looks 520 00:25:47,799 --> 00:25:45,500 just like you've got frostbite because 521 00:25:50,020 --> 00:25:47,809 you know the Bloods not making it to the 522 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:50,030 claw people lose legs and arms I was 523 00:26:00,970 --> 00:25:56,980 we gonna say something like oh no oh 524 00:26:02,860 --> 00:26:00,980 okay so I I said I was lucky I didn't 525 00:26:06,070 --> 00:26:02,870 lose more really right 526 00:26:08,380 --> 00:26:06,080 does that does it affect your organs as 527 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:08,390 well or is it just like a 528 00:26:13,780 --> 00:26:11,690 yeah I can it can definitely yeah I 529 00:26:17,049 --> 00:26:13,790 think did a lot of tests on my liver and 530 00:26:19,510 --> 00:26:17,059 kidneys and heart and all that stuff so 531 00:26:21,820 --> 00:26:19,520 I was fat they thought I had some sort 532 00:26:23,860 --> 00:26:21,830 of a heart problem at first ninda heart 533 00:26:25,510 --> 00:26:23,870 surgeon or the specialist came in and 534 00:26:29,410 --> 00:26:25,520 said no your heart's fine I don't know 535 00:26:31,060 --> 00:26:29,420 what they saw it first but but it ended 536 00:26:35,049 --> 00:26:31,070 up being okay my god 537 00:26:36,610 --> 00:26:35,059 yeah and so what about long-term effects 538 00:26:38,350 --> 00:26:36,620 of course you know losing your 539 00:26:40,539 --> 00:26:38,360 fingertips we're going to talk more 540 00:26:45,130 --> 00:26:40,549 about that but what are some of the 541 00:26:47,620 --> 00:26:45,140 long-term effects of this there isn't 542 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:47,630 any really once you know once they saw 543 00:26:51,940 --> 00:26:49,730 that when everything was doesn't you 544 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:51,950 know my organs were okay once you're 545 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:52,850 healed you're healed 546 00:26:57,730 --> 00:26:55,970 oh I remember one guy came in the under 547 00:26:59,770 --> 00:26:57,740 the my hospital room listen to the 548 00:27:01,600 --> 00:26:59,780 doctor can you get this again and the 549 00:27:03,039 --> 00:27:01,610 doctor kind of got angry you know you 550 00:27:05,860 --> 00:27:03,049 candy but he didn't want to talk about 551 00:27:07,210 --> 00:27:05,870 the next time I was gonna get it cuz he 552 00:27:08,470 --> 00:27:07,220 kind of thought maybe like it was one of 553 00:27:10,180 --> 00:27:08,480 those diseases like the measles that 554 00:27:14,650 --> 00:27:10,190 once you got it wouldn't get it again 555 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:14,660 but you come exposed to it but I I guess 556 00:27:19,299 --> 00:27:16,490 that would be the final straw that when 557 00:27:22,030 --> 00:27:19,309 you wouldn't make the 10% on that one 558 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:22,040 no I don't think I didn't know well they 559 00:27:26,980 --> 00:27:24,770 one of the reasons I did survive is that 560 00:27:31,180 --> 00:27:26,990 I was young unless I was 45 I wasn't 561 00:27:33,220 --> 00:27:31,190 like I am now 61 so you know being 562 00:27:35,260 --> 00:27:33,230 younger was on my side as far as 563 00:27:38,890 --> 00:27:35,270 surviving in one thing all right now 564 00:27:42,310 --> 00:27:38,900 let's talk about what it was like inside 565 00:27:45,310 --> 00:27:42,320 your head you know I mean that's a that 566 00:27:47,110 --> 00:27:45,320 must have just been one struggle after 567 00:27:51,060 --> 00:27:47,120 another because all of a sudden your 568 00:27:56,169 --> 00:27:51,070 life has totally changed and a 569 00:27:58,900 --> 00:27:56,179 depression I can only imagine yeah well 570 00:28:00,640 --> 00:27:58,910 you know it's like changes so fast from 571 00:28:02,710 --> 00:28:00,650 one you know from one day to the next 572 00:28:07,210 --> 00:28:02,720 it's you your what your life your heads 573 00:28:08,740 --> 00:28:07,220 over essentially yeah so I came home and 574 00:28:11,830 --> 00:28:08,750 just really depressed really depressed 575 00:28:13,390 --> 00:28:11,840 obviously and and there's all you know 576 00:28:14,830 --> 00:28:13,400 you can go sing and you can go play 577 00:28:16,120 --> 00:28:14,840 again you figure out it and I think I 578 00:28:17,500 --> 00:28:16,130 don't want to be the guy that becomes 579 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:17,510 the see play because he doesn't got its 580 00:28:21,769 --> 00:28:19,970 fingers like you know I'm some sideshow 581 00:28:25,070 --> 00:28:21,779 from some circus or something 582 00:28:28,009 --> 00:28:25,080 me but you know the thing that I was 583 00:28:31,609 --> 00:28:28,019 lucky was that I had so much support 584 00:28:33,950 --> 00:28:31,619 from the community and friends and you 585 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:33,960 know from playing all these shows and 586 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:36,330 concerts for years and years and years 587 00:28:40,969 --> 00:28:39,450 in this in this in this area I just had 588 00:28:42,349 --> 00:28:40,979 a lot of support that probably a lot of 589 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:42,359 other people wouldn't have gotten and 590 00:28:47,389 --> 00:28:45,330 that's what really saved me I think was 591 00:28:49,820 --> 00:28:47,399 just people were you know coming by the 592 00:28:53,839 --> 00:28:49,830 house and sending me letters and emails 593 00:28:56,180 --> 00:28:53,849 and and just a lot of people helped me 594 00:28:59,119 --> 00:28:56,190 through this and it just was really 595 00:29:02,779 --> 00:28:59,129 really lucky that way I bet I mean I I 596 00:29:06,109 --> 00:29:02,789 can't imagine you know things turning 597 00:29:09,229 --> 00:29:06,119 upside down of any more than they 598 00:29:11,269 --> 00:29:09,239 possibly could for you basically because 599 00:29:14,180 --> 00:29:11,279 unless you maybe if you lost your voice 600 00:29:17,690 --> 00:29:14,190 I guess that might be you know but still 601 00:29:21,769 --> 00:29:17,700 probably secondary to your playing you 602 00:29:24,859 --> 00:29:21,779 know how do you fill the hole of of not 603 00:29:27,049 --> 00:29:24,869 playing anymore we'll see that's where 604 00:29:29,629 --> 00:29:27,059 my when I got back to that principal 605 00:29:31,639 --> 00:29:29,639 calling me up it was sort of you know he 606 00:29:33,409 --> 00:29:31,649 called me he said Mark one of the to the 607 00:29:35,479 --> 00:29:33,419 teachers need an aide in their first 608 00:29:36,979 --> 00:29:35,489 grade class and you want to do it and I 609 00:29:39,109 --> 00:29:36,989 remember thinking I don't know if I want 610 00:29:41,060 --> 00:29:39,119 to do that and I thought well I got to 611 00:29:42,499 --> 00:29:41,070 get off my rear end and do something so 612 00:29:46,099 --> 00:29:42,509 I said yeah I went down and interviewed 613 00:29:46,999 --> 00:29:46,109 with them and they said yeah we want you 614 00:29:51,469 --> 00:29:47,009 to be opra 615 00:29:53,269 --> 00:29:51,479 and that was I mean that's that it was 616 00:29:54,649 --> 00:29:53,279 the best thing that ever could have 617 00:29:57,079 --> 00:29:54,659 happened to me because I ended up 618 00:29:58,549 --> 00:29:57,089 working with these kids and kids are 619 00:30:02,359 --> 00:29:58,559 funny they don't care about your fingers 620 00:30:03,889 --> 00:30:02,369 and a lot of employers really cool well 621 00:30:05,269 --> 00:30:03,899 that I said well don't go home and cut 622 00:30:09,649 --> 00:30:05,279 your fingers off because you think that 623 00:30:11,060 --> 00:30:09,659 they cool but it it really helped me 624 00:30:12,739 --> 00:30:11,070 through my depression because you get 625 00:30:14,810 --> 00:30:12,749 out of your sight you know that it's all 626 00:30:16,339 --> 00:30:14,820 of them you're thinking about them and 627 00:30:17,839 --> 00:30:16,349 you're in you and then I thought you 628 00:30:20,149 --> 00:30:17,849 know you know even though I can't play 629 00:30:22,159 --> 00:30:20,159 the guitar I can show other people how 630 00:30:25,129 --> 00:30:22,169 to play you know everything's still in 631 00:30:28,940 --> 00:30:25,139 my head what I did so then I started to 632 00:30:31,519 --> 00:30:28,950 teach kids how to play guitar well which 633 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:31,529 was really really nice so I got to kind 634 00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:33,210 of get back into music and then I sat 635 00:30:37,110 --> 00:30:35,290 for about a year with a guitar in my lap 636 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:37,120 thinking how can i play this thing again 637 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:38,770 I got a figure because that's all I ever 638 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:40,810 did I mean I played when I was hungry I 639 00:30:46,260 --> 00:30:43,210 played when I was happy I didn't didn't 640 00:30:48,210 --> 00:30:46,270 matter so I sat with the guitar in my 641 00:30:50,790 --> 00:30:48,220 lap and started to figure out how to do 642 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:50,800 little abbreviated versions of chords 643 00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:53,890 and kind of started to play again I mean 644 00:30:59,430 --> 00:30:56,530 I can't play like I used to but enough 645 00:31:00,950 --> 00:30:59,440 that I could I'm doing shows only you 646 00:31:03,390 --> 00:31:00,960 know wow yeah 647 00:31:05,190 --> 00:31:03,400 pardon my ignorance for this but what 648 00:31:07,980 --> 00:31:05,200 about like a steel guitar is that 649 00:31:10,530 --> 00:31:07,990 something you can play chords on yeah 650 00:31:13,950 --> 00:31:10,540 it's it's funny people ask me this yeah 651 00:31:15,570 --> 00:31:13,960 yeah guitar yeah which I could do but I 652 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:15,580 just never had any interest I don't 653 00:31:25,290 --> 00:31:21,610 blame you I don't know Don Ho died is 654 00:31:27,510 --> 00:31:25,300 that all I wanted to play like I could 655 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:27,520 play before I I wasn't even interested 656 00:31:32,010 --> 00:31:29,650 in that one when I could play so but I 657 00:31:33,750 --> 00:31:32,020 like I said I've figured out enough now 658 00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:33,760 that I can sort of get by you do get 659 00:31:37,290 --> 00:31:35,770 frustrated sometimes and I want to do 660 00:31:39,870 --> 00:31:37,300 something that I got in my head and I 661 00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:39,880 can't physically do it alright what 662 00:31:45,090 --> 00:31:42,850 about like pardon me what about now 663 00:31:46,530 --> 00:31:45,100 there's a little strange delay on my 664 00:31:49,230 --> 00:31:46,540 side just to let you know I hate to say 665 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:49,240 this life but it's just the buffering 666 00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:51,490 software so a lot of times I have to 667 00:31:57,030 --> 00:31:54,730 hesitate on my side you won't notice it 668 00:32:01,620 --> 00:31:57,040 on your side I don't think or you might 669 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:01,630 know so what is it like as far as now 670 00:32:08,250 --> 00:32:04,450 being a creative person you must have 671 00:32:11,310 --> 00:32:08,260 like songs come in your head still today 672 00:32:13,190 --> 00:32:11,320 do you actually write music now or have 673 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:13,200 you learned how to do that 674 00:32:18,150 --> 00:32:16,330 not really you know I've tried I've well 675 00:32:19,590 --> 00:32:18,160 I've written one song which is actually 676 00:32:21,450 --> 00:32:19,600 the title where Michael got the title 677 00:32:23,700 --> 00:32:21,460 for the snow called living in the light 678 00:32:27,710 --> 00:32:23,710 that I wrote for this these kids at the 679 00:32:30,660 --> 00:32:27,720 school in Oakland that I go and play for 680 00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:30,670 the thing when I when I wrote like when 681 00:32:33,630 --> 00:32:32,290 you heard on blue shadows is a lot of 682 00:32:36,270 --> 00:32:33,640 the sort of the intricate guitar stuff 683 00:32:37,890 --> 00:32:36,280 that I can't do anymore so you know I 684 00:32:41,340 --> 00:32:37,900 you should be able to write a song with 685 00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:41,350 three chords I mean they're million son 686 00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:43,810 so that shouldn't really be a an 687 00:32:48,630 --> 00:32:45,970 obstacle for me but for some reason I've 688 00:32:49,980 --> 00:32:48,640 lost that desire to write 689 00:32:51,389 --> 00:32:49,990 I've got to get it back again though 690 00:32:53,700 --> 00:32:51,399 because I used to love to write songs 691 00:32:55,950 --> 00:32:53,710 okay so let's let's play 692 00:33:00,659 --> 00:32:55,960 can we play one of your songs how about 693 00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:00,669 can you talk about next summer let's 694 00:33:05,820 --> 00:33:03,850 talk about that song next isn't my only 695 00:33:07,470 --> 00:33:05,830 instrumental I've ever written because 696 00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:07,480 not mark Pinilla is an incredible 697 00:33:11,310 --> 00:33:09,490 instrumentalists and writes a lot of 698 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:11,320 instrumentals and so when he was going 699 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:12,970 to produce this album called breathing 700 00:33:15,450 --> 00:33:13,690 of the sky 701 00:33:16,889 --> 00:33:15,460 I wanted to write an instrumental for us 702 00:33:19,529 --> 00:33:16,899 to work on because I knew that was sort 703 00:33:20,940 --> 00:33:19,539 of his strong point and I wanted to 704 00:33:25,289 --> 00:33:20,950 write a song that sort of made you feel 705 00:33:27,509 --> 00:33:25,299 warm like summer does and this is one 706 00:33:29,460 --> 00:33:27,519 song I woke up one morning rolled over 707 00:33:31,799 --> 00:33:29,470 and been and turned the radio on and it 708 00:33:33,980 --> 00:33:31,809 came on the radio the second I turned 709 00:33:36,570 --> 00:33:33,990 the radio on it was really funny 710 00:33:38,430 --> 00:33:36,580 had no idea was going to be on it was 711 00:33:41,639 --> 00:33:38,440 like somebody tapped me on the shoulder 712 00:33:43,710 --> 00:33:41,649 to turn the radio on it got a lot of 713 00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:43,720 radio played at the area so anyway 714 00:33:59,250 --> 00:33:45,370 that's the story behind case over here 715 00:34:22,730 --> 00:34:05,240 [Music] 716 00:35:25,730 --> 00:34:24,760 you 717 00:35:47,090 --> 00:35:38,750 [Music] 718 00:35:47,100 --> 00:36:06,779 ooh 719 00:36:06,789 --> 00:36:11,610 you 720 00:36:44,950 --> 00:36:25,200 [Music] 721 00:36:50,870 --> 00:36:47,569 another beautiful song thank you for 722 00:36:52,549 --> 00:36:50,880 that thank you thank you 723 00:36:59,210 --> 00:36:52,559 one of the things I was thinking while I 724 00:37:01,069 --> 00:36:59,220 was listening to the song is um what I 725 00:37:05,630 --> 00:37:01,079 have no idea where that's coming from 726 00:37:07,910 --> 00:37:05,640 I was asked to write a is this is this 727 00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:07,920 your song by the wincle no it was it it 728 00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:11,210 gets just be doing uh out of the skyline 729 00:37:20,370 --> 00:37:16,890 is that something you sent me no okay I 730 00:37:24,250 --> 00:37:20,380 have to find it it's not open 731 00:37:26,150 --> 00:37:24,260 [Music] 732 00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:26,160 we're going to enjoy it while it's 733 00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:30,210 playing though thank you 734 00:37:30,210 --> 00:37:35,609 [Music] 735 00:37:35,619 --> 00:37:39,610 when the Sun came up 736 00:37:50,299 --> 00:37:42,120 pieces of some machine 737 00:37:51,350 --> 00:37:50,309 [Music] 738 00:37:56,589 --> 00:37:51,360 come 739 00:38:01,270 --> 00:37:56,599 [Music] 740 00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:05,330 scanning 741 00:38:33,020 --> 00:38:14,150 [Music] 742 00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:36,060 this time 743 00:38:45,849 --> 00:38:42,530 [Music] 744 00:38:59,220 --> 00:38:47,450 we don't it 745 00:39:13,990 --> 00:39:11,400 [Music] 746 00:39:16,390 --> 00:39:14,000 okay it still has some more to go but I 747 00:39:19,059 --> 00:39:16,400 just wanted to yeah I just wanted to 748 00:39:22,450 --> 00:39:19,069 talk about that at the bottom of the 749 00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:22,460 blink on the webpage that the other song 750 00:39:25,809 --> 00:39:24,410 is hosted on that's where that showed up 751 00:39:30,730 --> 00:39:25,819 and it just started playing down on the 752 00:39:32,799 --> 00:39:30,740 very bottom so but anyway here here we 753 00:39:37,599 --> 00:39:32,809 are back again and so that was a little 754 00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:37,609 bonus song so again thank you for her 755 00:39:44,260 --> 00:39:40,490 that and what is it out of the sky it 756 00:39:47,220 --> 00:39:44,270 fell is that the name of that one yes 757 00:39:51,220 --> 00:39:47,230 so let's since that landed on that 758 00:39:53,650 --> 00:39:51,230 serendipitous I can't even talk let's 759 00:39:57,789 --> 00:39:53,660 let's talk about the genesis of that 760 00:39:59,710 --> 00:39:57,799 song well I'm just kind of how I met you 761 00:40:03,010 --> 00:39:59,720 one was I've always been interested in 762 00:40:06,430 --> 00:40:03,020 UFOs since I was a little kid and there 763 00:40:08,109 --> 00:40:06,440 was a festival down in in New Mexico 764 00:40:11,289 --> 00:40:08,119 they called me to ask me to write a song 765 00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:11,299 for it I don't know how I got there they 766 00:40:15,220 --> 00:40:13,010 got in touch with me I don't remember it 767 00:40:17,380 --> 00:40:15,230 anymore so I said yeah I would be glad 768 00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:17,390 to write a song about it so I wrote that 769 00:40:22,660 --> 00:40:20,450 and then Mark Bini and I would went down 770 00:40:25,420 --> 00:40:22,670 to him in LA would be recorded in fact 771 00:40:29,500 --> 00:40:25,430 that was him playing guitar with me on 772 00:40:31,359 --> 00:40:29,510 that live show and I'm not sure if they 773 00:40:34,569 --> 00:40:31,369 ever used it or not I can't remember 774 00:40:36,010 --> 00:40:34,579 it's been about 20 years now since I 775 00:40:38,079 --> 00:40:36,020 wrote that I forget what happened with 776 00:40:39,339 --> 00:40:38,089 it but that's how that happened was that 777 00:40:42,579 --> 00:40:39,349 they called and asked me to write 778 00:40:45,460 --> 00:40:42,589 something up not sure they used it but 779 00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:45,470 yeah my interest in UFOs was where that 780 00:40:50,170 --> 00:40:46,010 came from 781 00:40:52,890 --> 00:40:50,180 yeah okay and so I guess what I was 782 00:40:55,750 --> 00:40:52,900 talking about was I was thinking about 783 00:40:58,240 --> 00:40:55,760 when someone goes through something like 784 00:41:02,289 --> 00:40:58,250 what you went through it can be 785 00:41:03,700 --> 00:41:02,299 all-consuming like and you said you got 786 00:41:05,620 --> 00:41:03,710 out of yourself which i think is 787 00:41:07,740 --> 00:41:05,630 something that could really help a lot 788 00:41:11,019 --> 00:41:07,750 of people because I've heard of 789 00:41:13,569 --> 00:41:11,029 situations where people just become so 790 00:41:15,279 --> 00:41:13,579 self-absorbed in some miserable horrible 791 00:41:17,170 --> 00:41:15,289 thing that they can't think of anything 792 00:41:20,289 --> 00:41:17,180 else and the only way they can get out 793 00:41:22,540 --> 00:41:20,299 of it is if they help someone or or you 794 00:41:25,240 --> 00:41:22,550 know do something 795 00:41:27,670 --> 00:41:25,250 that gets their mind out of that so what 796 00:41:31,450 --> 00:41:27,680 about the like eight hours at night when 797 00:41:33,340 --> 00:41:31,460 you're by yourself and yeah that's when 798 00:41:35,230 --> 00:41:33,350 it would hit memory I lay in bed and I'd 799 00:41:37,570 --> 00:41:35,240 wake up and I'd look at my fingers and 800 00:41:40,420 --> 00:41:37,580 it's a trick deal you know I mean it 801 00:41:41,740 --> 00:41:40,430 just look so for him cuz you know to see 802 00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:41,750 your fingers look now I remember this 803 00:41:46,900 --> 00:41:44,090 man used to come and see me play who is 804 00:41:50,410 --> 00:41:46,910 an ex motorcycle cop who had lost his 805 00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:50,420 leg in an accident and he said mark you 806 00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:52,010 know he goes you get used to how they 807 00:41:58,030 --> 00:41:54,650 look and I remember thinking I'll never 808 00:41:59,560 --> 00:41:58,040 and he was right and now look they look 809 00:42:03,760 --> 00:41:59,570 so normal to me that it would look weird 810 00:42:06,720 --> 00:42:03,770 to have fingernails um but like he's 811 00:42:09,670 --> 00:42:06,730 like he like I was saying it to transfer 812 00:42:12,610 --> 00:42:09,680 your you know all your energy to 813 00:42:15,730 --> 00:42:12,620 something else really helps so you're 814 00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:15,740 not just thinking about you know I had a 815 00:42:21,010 --> 00:42:17,450 daughter too and I thought I can't just 816 00:42:24,190 --> 00:42:21,020 fold up you note into a ball and in wall 817 00:42:27,430 --> 00:42:24,200 right in this you know I mean I wanted 818 00:42:28,930 --> 00:42:27,440 to be an example for her that you move 819 00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:28,940 on and yet you do what you have to do 820 00:42:32,380 --> 00:42:32,090 and I just I wasn't gonna let it destroy 821 00:42:37,450 --> 00:42:32,390 me 822 00:42:39,340 --> 00:42:37,460 I think most people you know 99 people 823 00:42:40,570 --> 00:42:39,350 out of 100 would be do the same thing 824 00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:40,580 because what's the alternative really 825 00:42:46,510 --> 00:42:45,050 yeah you know and I could I when I go 826 00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:46,520 and I talked to a couple of the schools 827 00:42:52,390 --> 00:42:50,690 high schools they show the film and one 828 00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:52,400 thing I learned is it's it's amazing how 829 00:42:58,750 --> 00:42:55,490 bad and hopeless you can feel one day 830 00:43:01,300 --> 00:42:58,760 and a week later how everything can flip 831 00:43:03,460 --> 00:43:01,310 on a diamond how wonderful you can feel 832 00:43:05,740 --> 00:43:03,470 something can happen you know obviously 833 00:43:07,210 --> 00:43:05,750 just wait you know just wait because you 834 00:43:10,380 --> 00:43:07,220 just never know what's going to happen 835 00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:10,390 that can really make you feel great and 836 00:43:18,190 --> 00:43:13,850 get you out of a depression it's true 837 00:43:20,710 --> 00:43:18,200 right right so what about the first film 838 00:43:22,270 --> 00:43:20,720 how did that all happen and then of 839 00:43:24,870 --> 00:43:22,280 course Michael we want to talk about 840 00:43:27,820 --> 00:43:24,880 what you're up to with the second one 841 00:43:30,490 --> 00:43:27,830 well Jean Strauss who made the film Bree 842 00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:30,500 she's an author she did a couple of 843 00:43:35,410 --> 00:43:32,570 books with Liesel from The Sound of 844 00:43:36,460 --> 00:43:35,420 Music and a couple others and she did oh 845 00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:36,470 she was 846 00:43:40,750 --> 00:43:38,570 job T she did a book called beneath a 847 00:43:42,790 --> 00:43:40,760 tall tree she called me and said I want 848 00:43:44,770 --> 00:43:42,800 to write a book about what happened to 849 00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:44,780 you and I said I don't want to do that I 850 00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:47,450 kidding I just didn't want to do it so 851 00:43:51,430 --> 00:43:49,130 about six months later she calls so what 852 00:43:53,140 --> 00:43:51,440 if I do a documentary and I said you 853 00:43:56,410 --> 00:43:53,150 know I said yeah that would be okay if 854 00:44:00,730 --> 00:43:56,420 if we did that and I had known her since 855 00:44:02,170 --> 00:44:00,740 grammar school as well so she knew we 856 00:44:04,359 --> 00:44:02,180 weren't friends or anything but we knew 857 00:44:07,030 --> 00:44:04,369 of each other you know one of those kind 858 00:44:08,830 --> 00:44:07,040 of things so she would she was living in 859 00:44:11,230 --> 00:44:08,840 LA at the time so she'd come up about 860 00:44:14,950 --> 00:44:11,240 every couple weeks and just interview me 861 00:44:16,060 --> 00:44:14,960 and and we just and that was a nice way 862 00:44:17,950 --> 00:44:16,070 to kind of get rid of all that 863 00:44:21,220 --> 00:44:17,960 depression to to kind of talk and talk 864 00:44:25,540 --> 00:44:21,230 it out she did a really nice job on the 865 00:44:27,490 --> 00:44:25,550 UCS I think idea yes yeah um and she 866 00:44:31,270 --> 00:44:27,500 came to school I was at and filming with 867 00:44:33,910 --> 00:44:31,280 the kids and stuff now is there any type 868 00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:33,920 of like public support in any type of 869 00:44:40,330 --> 00:44:37,130 way that someone can also get that is 870 00:44:42,570 --> 00:44:40,340 going through something like what you 871 00:44:45,849 --> 00:44:42,580 went through 872 00:44:47,620 --> 00:44:45,859 not that I know of I mean I thought 873 00:44:49,450 --> 00:44:47,630 about going to the psychologist at first 874 00:44:52,690 --> 00:44:49,460 you know and didn't a help me get out of 875 00:44:55,329 --> 00:44:52,700 the depression but like I said I had so 876 00:44:57,730 --> 00:44:55,339 much support from from I mean you know 877 00:45:00,849 --> 00:44:57,740 Pete Johnson from the who he and I email 878 00:45:01,839 --> 00:45:00,859 for a while because he had Curt his he 879 00:45:04,690 --> 00:45:01,849 thought he wasn't going to be able to 880 00:45:06,820 --> 00:45:04,700 play he had fallen off his motorcycle or 881 00:45:09,849 --> 00:45:06,830 his bicycle and really hurt his wrist 882 00:45:11,980 --> 00:45:09,859 and so he and I emailed back and forth 883 00:45:14,950 --> 00:45:11,990 he helped me you know talk me through it 884 00:45:18,940 --> 00:45:14,960 too which was really nice having another 885 00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:18,950 musician guitar player so I was just 886 00:45:23,589 --> 00:45:20,930 really lucky that I didn't have to go 887 00:45:25,720 --> 00:45:23,599 and get yeah but Michael Genova yeah 888 00:45:28,870 --> 00:45:25,730 there's there's some friends of 889 00:45:31,599 --> 00:45:28,880 meningitis and the angels which are 890 00:45:33,930 --> 00:45:31,609 nurses and they put together some sites 891 00:45:40,329 --> 00:45:33,940 that you can easily find on the web and 892 00:45:43,420 --> 00:45:40,339 Facebook has a server a surviving 893 00:45:45,490 --> 00:45:43,430 meningitis page so there's something 894 00:45:49,410 --> 00:45:45,500 there's a lot of people are reaching out 895 00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:49,420 at this point I think it's becoming just 896 00:45:54,569 --> 00:45:51,490 like I said something that we can pretty 897 00:45:57,990 --> 00:45:54,579 much eradicate with the vaccine so now 898 00:46:00,780 --> 00:45:58,000 is there is there similarity to other 899 00:46:04,099 --> 00:46:00,790 types of meningitis like I've heard of 900 00:46:06,950 --> 00:46:04,109 spinal meningitis and so other other 901 00:46:12,089 --> 00:46:06,960 meningitis besides the bacterial and 902 00:46:15,770 --> 00:46:12,099 spinal not not that I know I think those 903 00:46:20,339 --> 00:46:15,780 are the two spinal isn't nearly as 904 00:46:21,450 --> 00:46:20,349 dangerous as bacterial Wow yeah yeah if 905 00:46:23,940 --> 00:46:21,460 you're going to get one of the two get 906 00:46:25,770 --> 00:46:23,950 to spinal one of the two that's only two 907 00:46:28,530 --> 00:46:25,780 I've ever heard of as well is this I 908 00:46:31,980 --> 00:46:28,540 know yeah yeah even neither one of them 909 00:46:34,109 --> 00:46:31,990 is good but I mean so Michael let's talk 910 00:46:36,990 --> 00:46:34,119 a little bit about what you're doing and 911 00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:37,000 what the possible differences of the 912 00:46:44,339 --> 00:46:41,410 first film that well the difference 913 00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:44,349 between what we're doing now is were the 914 00:46:58,920 --> 00:46:46,770 genes 915 00:47:01,650 --> 00:46:58,930 the trials and tribulations of dealing 916 00:47:04,380 --> 00:47:01,660 with his disease and the after effects 917 00:47:07,829 --> 00:47:04,390 mine is going to talk ours is going to 918 00:47:11,220 --> 00:47:07,839 talk about the beginning of Mark's life 919 00:47:12,990 --> 00:47:11,230 and how music is been a big part of it 920 00:47:15,720 --> 00:47:13,000 including Part II told you about from 921 00:47:18,870 --> 00:47:15,730 three years old on as long as I've known 922 00:47:20,390 --> 00:47:18,880 mark it's been music I mean that's the 923 00:47:23,490 --> 00:47:20,400 common thread that a lot of our friends 924 00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:23,500 have is we've all played music and all 925 00:47:29,490 --> 00:47:26,650 played in bands and so on but anyway 926 00:47:31,940 --> 00:47:29,500 well this film deals with his marks 927 00:47:35,490 --> 00:47:31,950 growing up his musical influences 928 00:47:37,829 --> 00:47:35,500 including John Stewart Frank Sinatra 929 00:47:41,910 --> 00:47:37,839 we promote Beatles the Bo you have a 930 00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:41,920 Beatles in 48 us yeah but then it's 931 00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:44,970 going to go right into the the 932 00:47:51,510 --> 00:47:48,210 catastrophe of getting hit with the 933 00:47:54,990 --> 00:47:51,520 meningitis and how he came came through 934 00:47:57,210 --> 00:47:55,000 that but the big part is how he's doing 935 00:48:02,460 --> 00:47:57,220 today and what he's doing and performing 936 00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:02,470 in fact next July in July he's playing 937 00:48:08,970 --> 00:48:05,770 a performance at Armando's with mark 938 00:48:10,830 --> 00:48:08,980 pnina and a lot of local musicians and 939 00:48:12,690 --> 00:48:10,840 that's the part that we're trying to 940 00:48:15,270 --> 00:48:12,700 celebrate that says you know you can get 941 00:48:18,030 --> 00:48:15,280 through this and mark has proven that 942 00:48:20,339 --> 00:48:18,040 there is life after meningitis you know 943 00:48:22,140 --> 00:48:20,349 he taught himself how to play read 944 00:48:25,589 --> 00:48:22,150 Murray taught himself how to play the 945 00:48:29,220 --> 00:48:25,599 guitar in a whole new way by putting it 946 00:48:32,609 --> 00:48:29,230 on his lap and using what pieces of his 947 00:48:35,580 --> 00:48:32,619 fingers there are and we deal with that 948 00:48:37,859 --> 00:48:35,590 in fact there is a about a six minute 949 00:48:39,780 --> 00:48:37,869 scene where Mark is just sitting with 950 00:48:44,730 --> 00:48:39,790 the guitar in my living room talking 951 00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:44,740 about how he put his finger down on the 952 00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:47,410 guitar and he goes out that would be I 953 00:48:51,810 --> 00:48:49,570 could I can make an A with this and he 954 00:48:54,270 --> 00:48:51,820 makes an a chord now if I just move my 955 00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:54,280 thumb over here I'm actually doing you 956 00:48:59,790 --> 00:48:56,410 can't see it I'm actually fretting like 957 00:49:02,550 --> 00:48:59,800 Mark does I can make it a minor and I 958 00:49:05,270 --> 00:49:02,560 used my knuckle on my thumb but I think 959 00:49:09,660 --> 00:49:05,280 Michael also wants to concentrate on 960 00:49:12,359 --> 00:49:09,670 getting some vaccines promoted one of 961 00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:12,369 the things I would like to do is after 962 00:49:17,220 --> 00:49:15,490 the movie is finished is to or college 963 00:49:20,820 --> 00:49:17,230 campuses mark and I would talked about 964 00:49:22,890 --> 00:49:20,830 this getting a Winnebago or something 965 00:49:24,950 --> 00:49:22,900 and just doing a road trip where we play 966 00:49:27,270 --> 00:49:24,960 the play the film and then talk about 967 00:49:30,270 --> 00:49:27,280 meningitis in ways that you can prevent 968 00:49:34,620 --> 00:49:30,280 it you know simply is not sharing a coke 969 00:49:37,099 --> 00:49:34,630 or beer and to get into the vaccine so 970 00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:37,109 yeah one of my goals is to eliminate 971 00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:40,570 bacterial meningitis in at least our 972 00:49:49,740 --> 00:49:44,530 country if not many many more well so 973 00:49:53,089 --> 00:49:49,750 not only is it a triumph over tragedy 974 00:49:57,900 --> 00:49:53,099 it's also an educational film - its 975 00:50:00,030 --> 00:49:57,910 spiritual and positive and transition 976 00:50:03,450 --> 00:50:00,040 yeah yeah exactly so that you know 977 00:50:05,310 --> 00:50:03,460 there's a lot to this movie and if 978 00:50:08,190 --> 00:50:05,320 anybody's interested you can always 979 00:50:10,290 --> 00:50:08,200 reach me at Michael at tweed photo calm 980 00:50:13,260 --> 00:50:10,300 especially if you have money we have a 981 00:50:16,309 --> 00:50:13,270 non-profit so we give you a nice big 982 00:50:22,620 --> 00:50:16,319 right off like 983 00:50:24,499 --> 00:50:22,630 you're welcome to plug yes yes so hi 984 00:50:27,299 --> 00:50:24,509 Michael you mentioned earlier that 985 00:50:27,839 --> 00:50:27,309 someone could be a carrier and not even 986 00:50:31,649 --> 00:50:27,849 know it 987 00:50:33,509 --> 00:50:31,659 do they have like statistically the 988 00:50:35,729 --> 00:50:33,519 amount of carriers that are out there 989 00:50:37,709 --> 00:50:35,739 you know I mean do people really have to 990 00:50:40,769 --> 00:50:37,719 watch about sharing a Coke and stuff 991 00:50:43,379 --> 00:50:40,779 like that I think when you're younger 992 00:50:47,579 --> 00:50:43,389 that's when you're more susceptible I 993 00:50:49,379 --> 00:50:47,589 from what I've read um as far as numbers 994 00:50:52,620 --> 00:50:49,389 go I don't know that you can ever count 995 00:50:55,199 --> 00:50:52,630 that because unless you were tested to 996 00:50:56,699 --> 00:50:55,209 see if you were a carrier like I said 997 00:50:58,559 --> 00:50:56,709 you might not ever know you could go 998 00:51:00,089 --> 00:50:58,569 your whole life and never get sick you 999 00:51:01,949 --> 00:51:00,099 know one thing they told me mark that I 1000 00:51:05,359 --> 00:51:01,959 remember now that it can live in your 1001 00:51:08,129 --> 00:51:05,369 nasal passages for five or six years and 1002 00:51:10,139 --> 00:51:08,139 you get run down and not feel well and 1003 00:51:12,539 --> 00:51:10,149 then that you can't fight it off where 1004 00:51:16,079 --> 00:51:12,549 you know if you're feeling good and 1005 00:51:17,609 --> 00:51:16,089 healthy and it can be there but it's not 1006 00:51:19,469 --> 00:51:17,619 taking over Wow 1007 00:51:21,509 --> 00:51:19,479 so it's almost like an immune type of 1008 00:51:23,399 --> 00:51:21,519 thing if your immune system if it's one 1009 00:51:25,879 --> 00:51:23,409 yeah right you know I didn't feel well I 1010 00:51:28,109 --> 00:51:25,889 went on that trip and I was tired and I 1011 00:51:29,579 --> 00:51:28,119 when I came back Friday I went out on a 1012 00:51:32,029 --> 00:51:29,589 date that night I didn't want to tell 1013 00:51:34,739 --> 00:51:32,039 the story which I should have done 1014 00:51:37,349 --> 00:51:34,749 instead I was a dick the brophy animals 1015 00:51:40,199 --> 00:51:37,359 back probably I think it was actually 1016 00:51:42,989 --> 00:51:40,209 yeah I really do I you hit the nail on 1017 00:51:44,909 --> 00:51:42,999 the head I think that was maybe if I had 1018 00:51:46,589 --> 00:51:44,919 come home and gone to bed maybe I would 1019 00:51:48,959 --> 00:51:46,599 have woken up and fought it off but I 1020 00:51:50,489 --> 00:51:48,969 just I did too much to where I just 1021 00:51:54,059 --> 00:51:50,499 couldn't fight it anymore but you're 1022 00:51:57,079 --> 00:51:54,069 saying this could be living like within 1023 00:52:00,749 --> 00:51:57,089 you somewhere for like five years so 1024 00:52:03,269 --> 00:52:00,759 that's another time you you know became 1025 00:52:05,669 --> 00:52:03,279 worn or fatigued that could have 1026 00:52:08,579 --> 00:52:05,679 happened just as easily right right 1027 00:52:10,829 --> 00:52:08,589 right that's how I took it when the 1028 00:52:14,009 --> 00:52:10,839 doctor told me that was that you know 1029 00:52:18,059 --> 00:52:14,019 you you get too warm down run down the 1030 00:52:19,499 --> 00:52:18,069 NIP you can't fight it off so not sure 1031 00:52:21,659 --> 00:52:19,509 that's the case but that's what he told 1032 00:52:26,729 --> 00:52:21,669 so the vaccine you talked about Michael 1033 00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:26,739 um how how important would you say it is 1034 00:52:31,260 --> 00:52:29,530 that someone like College 1035 00:52:34,050 --> 00:52:31,270 or something that actually gets that 1036 00:52:34,770 --> 00:52:34,060 taken care of I think it's very 1037 00:52:38,490 --> 00:52:34,780 important 1038 00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:38,500 my daughter's in her 30s now probably 1039 00:52:43,620 --> 00:52:40,650 pretty safe from it but obviously not 1040 00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:43,630 but I would encourage all parents to 1041 00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:45,130 talk to their doctors and then their 1042 00:52:50,820 --> 00:52:49,090 children mmm way you know I don't know 1043 00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:50,830 that I've read anything negative about 1044 00:52:58,050 --> 00:52:55,410 the vaccine to Nimba is what it's called 1045 00:53:00,600 --> 00:52:58,060 but talk to your doctors I think you'd 1046 00:53:02,310 --> 00:53:00,610 find most doctors will be very 1047 00:53:03,810 --> 00:53:02,320 encouraging of it and I don't think it 1048 00:53:05,820 --> 00:53:03,820 costs all that much and I'm sure it's 1049 00:53:07,910 --> 00:53:05,830 covered by insurance and if it's not 1050 00:53:10,500 --> 00:53:07,920 marks got a good attorney that can go 1051 00:53:12,930 --> 00:53:10,510 well that's saying it's prisons it's 1052 00:53:17,030 --> 00:53:12,940 it's College camp you know dormitories 1053 00:53:19,860 --> 00:53:17,040 that and our you know the barracks or 1054 00:53:22,050 --> 00:53:19,870 the armed services that will afford 1055 00:53:25,140 --> 00:53:22,060 spread the most yeah that that totally 1056 00:53:29,490 --> 00:53:25,150 makes sense yeah yeah that confinement 1057 00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:29,500 right right in close proximity to each 1058 00:53:33,300 --> 00:53:31,570 other and it doesn't up you mentioned 1059 00:53:37,110 --> 00:53:33,310 third-world countries places like that 1060 00:53:40,290 --> 00:53:37,120 but there's no type of incubating it in 1061 00:53:43,110 --> 00:53:40,300 any type of type of climate or any it 1062 00:53:45,090 --> 00:53:43,120 doesn't necessarily associate with like 1063 00:53:48,660 --> 00:53:45,100 dirtiness or anything like that does it 1064 00:53:52,890 --> 00:53:48,670 uh not not that I know of 1065 00:53:55,860 --> 00:53:52,900 it's an airborne type of transmission I 1066 00:53:58,950 --> 00:53:55,870 guess I don't know the temperature 1067 00:54:01,110 --> 00:53:58,960 climate or any of that please and I am 1068 00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:01,120 NOT I've not looked into that but and 1069 00:54:05,340 --> 00:54:02,970 that's a good question actually 1070 00:54:06,930 --> 00:54:05,350 well like I said all the nurses had to 1071 00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:06,940 wear masks and they would come to my 1072 00:54:12,750 --> 00:54:09,570 room so they must be airborne to some 1073 00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:12,760 degree I guess yeah I had to wear a mask 1074 00:54:19,340 --> 00:54:14,530 when I visited did you yeah how do you 1075 00:54:24,860 --> 00:54:19,350 are you still a carrier of this spark 1076 00:54:28,830 --> 00:54:24,870 no no uh no I'm not anymore 1077 00:54:33,300 --> 00:54:28,840 Edd's yeah so run sit in my cell gloves 1078 00:54:35,790 --> 00:54:33,310 it's coarse basically yeah I think it's 1079 00:54:36,990 --> 00:54:35,800 you're done with it it's out of here 1080 00:54:39,240 --> 00:54:37,000 once they put me on all those 1081 00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:39,250 antibiotics they got rid of it it was it 1082 00:54:42,380 --> 00:54:40,890 was gone 1083 00:54:43,940 --> 00:54:42,390 because it wouldn't let you be around 1084 00:54:48,049 --> 00:54:43,950 people that was that they thought it was 1085 00:54:49,099 --> 00:54:48,059 still you know if you were a carrier 1086 00:54:57,559 --> 00:54:49,109 yeah 1087 00:55:00,289 --> 00:54:57,569 think we want to talk about your the 1088 00:55:04,519 --> 00:55:00,299 last song you wrote let's talk about how 1089 00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:04,529 that all came about that is that the 1090 00:55:11,089 --> 00:55:06,930 what I said you are talking about yeah 1091 00:55:13,819 --> 00:55:11,099 that was some the last song I recorded I 1092 00:55:17,059 --> 00:55:13,829 was about to do a new album and I'd gone 1093 00:55:19,069 --> 00:55:17,069 down to LA and recorded a couple songs a 1094 00:55:21,259 --> 00:55:19,079 little side note least Claire is playing 1095 00:55:22,579 --> 00:55:21,269 bass I'm not sure for the music fans out 1096 00:55:25,609 --> 00:55:22,589 there Lisa Clark played bass on all 1097 00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:25,619 Jackson Browne's albums James Taylor 1098 00:55:30,259 --> 00:55:27,930 he's touring with Phil Collins right now 1099 00:55:31,759 --> 00:55:30,269 but it was he came in as a kind of a 1100 00:55:32,930 --> 00:55:31,769 special guest and played the bass guitar 1101 00:55:35,359 --> 00:55:32,940 so it's just the three of us mark 1102 00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:35,369 Padilla and me on the kusa guitar and 1103 00:55:39,140 --> 00:55:37,410 Lise flower on the bass and then I went 1104 00:55:41,959 --> 00:55:39,150 back home and left for that field trip 1105 00:55:44,449 --> 00:55:41,969 where I got sick so this is the last 1106 00:55:46,309 --> 00:55:44,459 thing I ever recorded for the before I 1107 00:55:47,900 --> 00:55:46,319 got to the miniature so we're going to 1108 00:55:52,130 --> 00:55:47,910 basically end the show with that but 1109 00:55:54,799 --> 00:55:52,140 what about the what about the album you 1110 00:55:57,140 --> 00:55:54,809 must have had this in your head you know 1111 00:55:58,880 --> 00:55:57,150 with your ideas and everything of it 1112 00:56:02,269 --> 00:55:58,890 whatever happened to the rest of the 1113 00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:02,279 music yeah I had about two albums with 1114 00:56:07,120 --> 00:56:03,930 the songs written really we were going 1115 00:56:10,459 --> 00:56:07,130 to pare it down to like twelve he got 1116 00:56:12,309 --> 00:56:10,469 three songs done this one you're gonna 1117 00:56:14,569 --> 00:56:12,319 play being the last one we've done 1118 00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:14,579 they're just sitting around cassettes in 1119 00:56:20,599 --> 00:56:18,930 my my house unfinished as far as 1120 00:56:23,089 --> 00:56:20,609 recording the songs are all finished but 1121 00:56:25,489 --> 00:56:23,099 we may record some of them tactically 1122 00:56:28,430 --> 00:56:25,499 talked about digging some of them out 1123 00:56:31,039 --> 00:56:28,440 and finishing them up and doing another 1124 00:56:32,930 --> 00:56:31,049 I could see that and if you didn't feel 1125 00:56:36,099 --> 00:56:32,940 comfortable participating as far as 1126 00:56:38,859 --> 00:56:36,109 music musically you have the voice and 1127 00:56:41,239 --> 00:56:38,869 you know at least you have that right 1128 00:56:43,309 --> 00:56:41,249 just like the other musicians play on 1129 00:56:45,559 --> 00:56:43,319 the on the CDs now now albums now and I 1130 00:56:47,689 --> 00:56:45,569 just go and sing sing but they you know 1131 00:56:50,539 --> 00:56:47,699 I they know what I want they I've got 1132 00:56:52,500 --> 00:56:50,549 the song recorded already for me when I 1133 00:56:54,780 --> 00:56:52,510 wrote them so they can hear them 1134 00:56:58,080 --> 00:56:54,790 what I want when he was talking about 1135 00:57:00,120 --> 00:56:58,090 mark Bonilla producing mark Vanina and 1136 00:57:01,710 --> 00:57:00,130 Mark Stanley had played together in a 1137 00:57:05,670 --> 00:57:01,720 band called Rock Island since high 1138 00:57:09,210 --> 00:57:05,680 school so they know each other me and 1139 00:57:11,310 --> 00:57:09,220 Lee inside now and Michael when do you 1140 00:57:14,340 --> 00:57:11,320 think do you have just kind of like a 1141 00:57:16,500 --> 00:57:14,350 guesstimate of when the the film and the 1142 00:57:20,310 --> 00:57:16,510 whole the concert and everything might 1143 00:57:22,830 --> 00:57:20,320 be wrapped up well I would like it to be 1144 00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:22,840 done in a year from now I'm meeting with 1145 00:57:27,540 --> 00:57:25,810 a producer in Nevada 1146 00:57:29,190 --> 00:57:27,550 next week like I said and I'm hoping 1147 00:57:32,850 --> 00:57:29,200 that she can come up with some creative 1148 00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:32,860 ways to get us started and continuing so 1149 00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:35,410 yeah we'd like if we can knock it out in 1150 00:57:40,530 --> 00:57:37,810 a year's time if we have yeah yeah well 1151 00:57:43,980 --> 00:57:40,540 I hope that happens and so I want to 1152 00:57:47,910 --> 00:57:43,990 thank you both so much and Mark you're 1153 00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:47,920 an inspiration and you know you you knew 1154 00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:49,690 how to carry on which i think is amazing 1155 00:57:53,850 --> 00:57:51,970 and so wonderful you had support that's 1156 00:57:57,150 --> 00:57:53,860 great and I also want to thank you very 1157 00:58:01,230 --> 00:57:57,160 much for kindly offering your music for 1158 00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:01,240 my shows oh my pleasure - I'm so happy 1159 00:58:04,620 --> 00:58:03,010 you could use them I love your shows I 1160 00:58:07,650 --> 00:58:04,630 listen every one of them I'm they're 1161 00:58:08,880 --> 00:58:07,660 always great so thanks all right so 1162 00:58:12,270 --> 00:58:08,890 we're going to play this music on the 1163 00:58:15,180 --> 00:58:12,280 outro so thanks so much everyone and so 1164 00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:15,190 we'll be back next week and with another 1165 00:58:21,300 --> 00:58:18,730 show and I am going to pull up the 1166 00:58:25,710 --> 00:58:21,310 guests I think it's going to be an 1167 00:58:31,620 --> 00:58:25,720 interesting show with hang on just a 1168 00:58:34,410 --> 00:58:31,630 second and it's not coming up ha all 1169 00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:34,420 right okay you got the other one as an 1170 00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:36,730 extra already all right yeah okay so 1171 00:58:42,930 --> 00:58:39,970 we'll be back next week and all right so 1172 00:58:55,989 --> 00:58:42,940 thanks so much everyone for listening 1173 00:59:00,190 --> 00:58:55,999 [Music] 1174 00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:00,200 she's so cool and calm and steady 1175 00:59:11,259 --> 00:59:06,450 but Jesus clothes as a nearest star but 1176 00:59:13,220 --> 00:59:11,269 I got time until she's ready I got time 1177 00:59:17,390 --> 00:59:13,230 there you are 1178 00:59:22,490 --> 00:59:17,400 [Music] 1179 00:59:27,079 --> 00:59:22,500 when I see you my heart beats faster 1180 00:59:32,579 --> 00:59:27,089 starts beating like a big bass drum 1181 00:59:37,260 --> 00:59:32,589 every time I walk past it everything 1182 00:59:43,190 --> 00:59:37,270 about us is she's the one everything 1183 00:59:50,670 --> 00:59:43,200 about us is she's the one 1184 00:59:55,559 --> 00:59:50,680 [Music] 1185 01:00:04,410 --> 00:59:58,089 she's like the first time that I fell in 1186 01:00:10,890 --> 01:00:04,420 love I can't wait to say that I've got 1187 01:00:17,529 --> 01:00:13,069 she 1188 01:00:22,730 --> 01:00:17,539 when I see you my heart beats faster 1189 01:00:24,520 --> 01:00:22,740 starts beating like a big bass drum 1190 01:00:28,840 --> 01:00:24,530 every time 1191 01:00:41,150 --> 01:00:28,850 I wore pastor David 1192 01:00:50,300 --> 01:00:45,549 she's the one makes me forget what I see 1193 01:00:56,600 --> 01:00:52,599 she is the more 1194 01:01:03,349 --> 01:00:56,610 no regrets with time 1195 01:01:14,560 --> 01:01:08,940 I'll see my heart beats fast start 1196 01:01:19,910 --> 01:01:16,100 I 1197 01:01:23,450 --> 01:01:21,620 she's the one 1198 01:01:26,650 --> 01:01:23,460 here is 1199 01:01:28,359 --> 01:01:26,660 buzzes Shifu 1200 01:01:36,490 --> 01:01:28,369 everything on 1201 01:01:39,580 --> 01:01:37,240 Oh 1202 01:01:54,480 --> 01:01:39,590 [Music] 1203 01:01:59,590 --> 01:01:57,960 is she 1204 01:02:01,450 --> 01:01:59,600 everything about 1205 01:02:05,300 --> 01:02:01,460 silly